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SOMERSET STORM AND FLOODS: Severe flood warnings for River Tone (Wed, Feb 5)

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    Homes left without power
  • Trees down
  • Flooding continues
  • Severe flood warnings for River Tone
  • Some schools closing early

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Useacarpark.com 7:34am Wed 5 Feb 14
I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
Score: -29
Samej1 7:57am Wed 5 Feb 14

Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
I guess it's easy to write this is in a dry, warm and damage-free abode isn't it - the blitz spirit was alive and well on the levels last night with people risking flood water travelling from far afield to help with sand bags... I guess you weren't one of them, eh.
Score: 33
TauntonBloke29 7:58am Wed 5 Feb 14
Welcome online Gazette! You are a little late to the party. Would have been good to gave something earlier and maybe someone on the ground with accurate reports, but understand you are under pressure to cut costs. Thankfully the Taunton Facebook page is full of good info.
Score: 21
Blue Owl 9:15am Wed 5 Feb 14

Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
Usercarpark, you really do not know what you are commenting on !!!
Of course the problems we are facing, is due to the excessive Rain fall, that has fallen over the Last Month and still continuing into February. This rainfall has landed in and around Sedgemoor, finding its way down the Water Courses to the Somerset Levels. Where under normal Conditions, pre 2012/13 this water has be allowed to accumulate onto the Designated Flood Plains, however due to the excess this last 2 years, the River Tone and Brue, have Breached their Banks, the water has been allowed by the Environment Agency to inundate the Moors of Middle, Salt, BurrowBridge, Athelney, Muchelney, Langport, and the A361 again for over a Month.
Just to ensure that Parts of Taunton, the County Town does not Suffer Floods,
It seems to be OK for the Residents of Our Countryside to have their lives Devastated for 4-6 weeks ongoing Misery!!! It Is Not OK !!!!!!!!!?????
The Seperate issue, is the Mishandling of the Situation by the E Agency, now
For the 2nd year running, they as an Organisation ,are NOT FIT For Purpose,
The E Agency, needs to be Culled from the Top Downwards, starting with Lord Steve Smith (Lab Peer) who Takes a £100k a year for a 3 day Week as the Chairman of this Quango.. Also Robbie Williams the SWest Manager, who still spouts the Rethoric that Dredging will not be the Answer, Why Twenty years ago when the E Agency, took over from the Local Drainage Boards, has the Maintenance of our Rivers decreased, because of Misguided Fools, with their Computor Generated River, tide Modules, local knowledge, is worth A Thousand Experts from the E Agency, sack the lot of them from Middle Management Up to the Top !!!!!!! .......the Agency engineers on the ground have everyone's appreciation for the fantastic jobs they have done.
But, when you have the Bosses, stating that Dredging is not the answer, but spending £Millions 17.4 ££££££££ on Jollies, travel, Bird Wetlands, protecting Beetles, there surely is something Drastically Amiss, surely the residents need protecting First, not the Birds who fly away, at the first sign of rising water levels.
Bring the Responsibility, back to the Local Drainage Boards ,with the Farmers and Landowners, participation, as many of them are 3-4-5 Generation Farmers working the Land on the Levels, not to be config used with the Wet Lands, Flood Plains.......Which are Designated Area's
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Score: 20
Useacarpark.com 9:56am Wed 5 Feb 14

Samej1 wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
I guess it's easy to write this is in a dry, warm and damage-free abode isn't it - the blitz spirit was alive and well on the levels last night with people risking flood water travelling from far afield to help with sand bags... I guess you weren't one of them, eh.
I suppose world war and flooding is comparable......so people ignored the road closed signs and risked their own lives to take out sand bags to an area of flooding the size of Bristol? Sounds about as stupid as buying a house on on flood plain! Getting bored of all this now, it's flooded for decades even with dredging, so it's about time a decision was made to stop ploughing tax payers money into this area and accept the inevitable. A house is just a house, it's better to have a warm dry house all year round than have a constant risk of flooding just to have some nice views of the countryside
Score: -14
Slow down! 10:05am Wed 5 Feb 14
"Just to ensure that Parts of Taunton, the County Town does not Suffer Floods,
It seems to be OK for the Residents of Our Countryside to have their lives Devastated for 4-6 weeks ongoing Misery!!! It Is Not OK !!!!!!!!!?????"



So you would rather Taunton flooded?

I've said it before on another site, having been born and raised in Somerset I would never choose to live on the Somerset Levels as I now they flood or are liable, maybe the people who choose to live there should do their homework before moving to the area!

Yes I have some sympathy with the conditions that they have at present and the lack of help this rubbish government have offered, but it was their choice to live there.
Score: 10
Samej1 10:12am Wed 5 Feb 14

Useacarpark.com wrote…


Samej1 wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
I guess it's easy to write this is in a dry, warm and damage-free abode isn't it - the blitz spirit was alive and well on the levels last night with people risking flood water travelling from far afield to help with sand bags... I guess you weren't one of them, eh.
I suppose world war and flooding is comparable......so people ignored the road closed signs and risked their own lives to take out sand bags to an area of flooding the size of Bristol? Sounds about as stupid as buying a house on on flood plain! Getting bored of all this now, it's flooded for decades even with dredging, so it's about time a decision was made to stop ploughing tax payers money into this area and accept the inevitable. A house is just a house, it's better to have a warm dry house all year round than have a constant risk of flooding just to have some nice views of the countryside
"blitz spirit" isn't comparing this to a war, it's a description of the way people are rallying round those who are suffering, HTH.
Do you propose moving all people from all flood plains? What are the parameters you have in mind, 1 in 100yr possibility, 1 in 10yr?
Things aren't as simple as you think, leave the levels to flood and there will be a whole lotta other consequences you don't even want to think about....
Score: -2
Useacarpark.com 10:24am Wed 5 Feb 14

Samej1 wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


Samej1 wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
I guess it's easy to write this is in a dry, warm and damage-free abode isn't it - the blitz spirit was alive and well on the levels last night with people risking flood water travelling from far afield to help with sand bags... I guess you weren't one of them, eh.
I suppose world war and flooding is comparable......so people ignored the road closed signs and risked their own lives to take out sand bags to an area of flooding the size of Bristol? Sounds about as stupid as buying a house on on flood plain! Getting bored of all this now, it's flooded for decades even with dredging, so it's about time a decision was made to stop ploughing tax payers money into this area and accept the inevitable. A house is just a house, it's better to have a warm dry house all year round than have a constant risk of flooding just to have some nice views of the countryside
"blitz spirit" isn't comparing this to a war, it's a description of the way people are rallying round those who are suffering, HTH.
Do you propose moving all people from all flood plains? What are the parameters you have in mind, 1 in 100yr possibility, 1 in 10yr?
Things aren't as simple as you think, leave the levels to flood and there will be a whole lotta other consequences you don't even want to think about....
War like spirit though? Which the "blitz" relates to. My idea would be for the council to offer a compulsory purchase order to those that want to relocate, because let's be honest no one will want to buy there. Then those that want to stay will have to come up with a viable solution with the relevant agencies that will allow more areas to be designated flood plains and also raise the level of the road. I would prefer to see a one off cost rather than hoping dredging will solve the problem.
Score: -5
Samej1 11:25am Wed 5 Feb 14

Useacarpark.com wrote…


Samej1 wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


Samej1 wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
I guess it's easy to write this is in a dry, warm and damage-free abode isn't it - the blitz spirit was alive and well on the levels last night with people risking flood water travelling from far afield to help with sand bags... I guess you weren't one of them, eh.
I suppose world war and flooding is comparable......so people ignored the road closed signs and risked their own lives to take out sand bags to an area of flooding the size of Bristol? Sounds about as stupid as buying a house on on flood plain! Getting bored of all this now, it's flooded for decades even with dredging, so it's about time a decision was made to stop ploughing tax payers money into this area and accept the inevitable. A house is just a house, it's better to have a warm dry house all year round than have a constant risk of flooding just to have some nice views of the countryside
"blitz spirit" isn't comparing this to a war, it's a description of the way people are rallying round those who are suffering, HTH.
Do you propose moving all people from all flood plains? What are the parameters you have in mind, 1 in 100yr possibility, 1 in 10yr?
Things aren't as simple as you think, leave the levels to flood and there will be a whole lotta other consequences you don't even want to think about....
War like spirit though? Which the "blitz" relates to. My idea would be for the council to offer a compulsory purchase order to those that want to relocate, because let's be honest no one will want to buy there. Then those that want to stay will have to come up with a viable solution with the relevant agencies that will allow more areas to be designated flood plains and also raise the level of the road. I would prefer to see a one off cost rather than hoping dredging will solve the problem.
Great idea, drive over to Bathpool and offer this suggestion to the residents who've only just moved in....
Score: 3
[deleted] 11:53am Wed 5 Feb 14
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Score: -8
wivey 12:12pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Blue Owl wrote…


Useacarpark.com wrote…


I would just like to add that this flooding has nothing to do with extreme levels of rainfall, but because the Environment Agency haven't dredged all rivers and streams in somerset........Now I demand everyone pay more tax, charities give me money and the council provide me with free boat transport!
Usercarpark, you really do not know what you are commenting on !!!
Of course the problems we are facing, is due to the excessive Rain fall, that has fallen over the Last Month and still continuing into February. This rainfall has landed in and around Sedgemoor, finding its way down the Water Courses to the Somerset Levels. Where under normal Conditions, pre 2012/13 this water has be allowed to accumulate onto the Designated Flood Plains, however due to the excess this last 2 years, the River Tone and Brue, have Breached their Banks, the water has been allowed by the Environment Agency to inundate the Moors of Middle, Salt, BurrowBridge, Athelney, Muchelney, Langport, and the A361 again for over a Month.
Just to ensure that Parts of Taunton, the County Town does not Suffer Floods,
It seems to be OK for the Residents of Our Countryside to have their lives Devastated for 4-6 weeks ongoing Misery!!! It Is Not OK !!!!!!!!!?????
The Seperate issue, is the Mishandling of the Situation by the E Agency, now
For the 2nd year running, they as an Organisation ,are NOT FIT For Purpose,
The E Agency, needs to be Culled from the Top Downwards, starting with Lord Steve Smith (Lab Peer) who Takes a £100k a year for a 3 day Week as the Chairman of this Quango.. Also Robbie Williams the SWest Manager, who still spouts the Rethoric that Dredging will not be the Answer, Why Twenty years ago when the E Agency, took over from the Local Drainage Boards, has the Maintenance of our Rivers decreased, because of Misguided Fools, with their Computor Generated River, tide Modules, local knowledge, is worth A Thousand Experts from the E Agency, sack the lot of them from Middle Management Up to the Top !!!!!!! .......the Agency engineers on the ground have everyone's appreciation for the fantastic jobs they have done.
But, when you have the Bosses, stating that Dredging is not the answer, but spending £Millions 17.4 ££££££££ on Jollies, travel, Bird Wetlands, protecting Beetles, there surely is something Drastically Amiss, surely the residents need protecting First, not the Birds who fly away, at the first sign of rising water levels.
Bring the Responsibility, back to the Local Drainage Boards ,with the Farmers and Landowners, participation, as many of them are 3-4-5 Generation Farmers working the Land on the Levels, not to be config used with the Wet Lands, Flood Plains.......Which are Designated Area's
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Environment Agency only responsible for the Parret and the Tone while the Drainage Boards http://www.somersetd
rainageboards.gov.uk
/operations/maintena
nce/ are still responsible for the rhines and other water courses? Before 1996, when the government of the time setup the Environment Agency, I think it was the National Rivers Authority (not the Drainage Board) who had responsibility for the Tone and Parret, and prior to that it was Wessex Water (before it was privatised in 1989). So it wouldn't so much be 'bringing responsibility back' to the Drainage Boards, but giving them new responsibility, and that would only make sense if it covered the entire catchment area from Exmoor to the Mendips. Not likely me thinks.

When it comes to the current role of the EA, don't they just implement Government policy - in which case the target should surely be DEFRA (who make the policy), not the EA?
Score: 2
[deleted] 12:13pm Wed 5 Feb 14
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