Somerset floods: Sluice gate opened in bid to clear Levels

Yeovil Express: Somerset floods: Sluice gate opened in bid to clear Levels Somerset floods: Sluice gate opened in bid to clear Levels

A GATE which diverts water out of the River Parrett has been opened as Environment Agency bosses look to clear water from the saturated Somerset Levels.

The Environment Agency said starting the Monksleaze Cycle should speed up efforts to get pumps switched back on to drain the moors.

The opening has been brought forward due to good conditions, a spokesman said.

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2:15pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Jon Alsbury says...

Did you actually mean Monks Leaze Clyse? *facepalm*
Did you actually mean Monks Leaze Clyse? *facepalm* Jon Alsbury

4:23pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Somerset Flower says...

I reallyhope the EA are monitoring the situation now the sluice gates have been opened, as the situation at Chedzoy has got worse and the river at one end of the village is spilling over and at the other end more fields are being flooded causing more misery for Farmers here.
I reallyhope the EA are monitoring the situation now the sluice gates have been opened, as the situation at Chedzoy has got worse and the river at one end of the village is spilling over and at the other end more fields are being flooded causing more misery for Farmers here. Somerset Flower

5:55pm Sun 23 Feb 14

LookingForLiars says...

So if the sluices at Dunball had been maintained in working order this procedure could have been started TWO mouths ago ?
This is what it was designed to do !
So if the sluices at Dunball had been maintained in working order this procedure could have been started TWO mouths ago ? This is what it was designed to do ! LookingForLiars

6:45pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Somerset Flower says...

Even more fields are now flooded at Chedzoy since the opening of the sluice gates, causing more agony for Farmers here now. I hope the EA realise that this is fast becoming a greater problem both ends of the village where huge lakes over fields are getting larger all th time.
Even more fields are now flooded at Chedzoy since the opening of the sluice gates, causing more agony for Farmers here now. I hope the EA realise that this is fast becoming a greater problem both ends of the village where huge lakes over fields are getting larger all th time. Somerset Flower

6:48pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Somerset Flower says...

That's spot on. The EA have failed to maintain the rivers.
That's spot on. The EA have failed to maintain the rivers. Somerset Flower

7:03pm Sun 23 Feb 14

The Central Scrutinizer says...

Better flooded farm land than people's homes
Better flooded farm land than people's homes The Central Scrutinizer

12:05am Tue 25 Feb 14

Blue Owl says...

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Better flooded farm land than people's homes
Better no Flooding, only on the Designated Flood Plains, the E A are An Utter disgrace, it's their Doctrine, policies that have caused this years Problems. In 2013, a report that Was produced in February, by the Consortium of Drainage Boards , Concluded that the Rivers must be Dredged to their 1960 levels, taking the now 65% Capacity, back to 90-95 % as 60's.
The EA Chose to ignore this report, instead progressing a Scheme which would increase the Habitat for Wading Birds in Preference to the Resident Population of Humans, yes us, and my friends who are now out of their homes for upwards of a Year, or More. In favour of Sand Beetles, etc..
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]The Central Scrutinizer[/bold] wrote: Better flooded farm land than people's homes[/p][/quote]Better no Flooding, only on the Designated Flood Plains, the E A are An Utter disgrace, it's their Doctrine, policies that have caused this years Problems. In 2013, a report that Was produced in February, by the Consortium of Drainage Boards , Concluded that the Rivers must be Dredged to their 1960 levels, taking the now 65% Capacity, back to 90-95 % as 60's. The EA Chose to ignore this report, instead progressing a Scheme which would increase the Habitat for Wading Birds in Preference to the Resident Population of Humans, yes us, and my friends who are now out of their homes for upwards of a Year, or More. In favour of Sand Beetles, etc.. David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

7:35am Tue 25 Feb 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

Blue Owl wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Better flooded farm land than people's homes
Better no Flooding, only on the Designated Flood Plains, the E A are An Utter disgrace, it's their Doctrine, policies that have caused this years Problems. In 2013, a report that Was produced in February, by the Consortium of Drainage Boards , Concluded that the Rivers must be Dredged to their 1960 levels, taking the now 65% Capacity, back to 90-95 % as 60's.
The EA Chose to ignore this report, instead progressing a Scheme which would increase the Habitat for Wading Birds in Preference to the Resident Population of Humans, yes us, and my friends who are now out of their homes for upwards of a Year, or More. In favour of Sand Beetles, etc..
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
could you post a link to this EA report please Dave as at present we only have your word for it
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Central Scrutinizer[/bold] wrote: Better flooded farm land than people's homes[/p][/quote]Better no Flooding, only on the Designated Flood Plains, the E A are An Utter disgrace, it's their Doctrine, policies that have caused this years Problems. In 2013, a report that Was produced in February, by the Consortium of Drainage Boards , Concluded that the Rivers must be Dredged to their 1960 levels, taking the now 65% Capacity, back to 90-95 % as 60's. The EA Chose to ignore this report, instead progressing a Scheme which would increase the Habitat for Wading Birds in Preference to the Resident Population of Humans, yes us, and my friends who are now out of their homes for upwards of a Year, or More. In favour of Sand Beetles, etc.. David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]could you post a link to this EA report please Dave as at present we only have your word for it freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter

12:35pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Bridgy old Boy says...

Owly old boy once again you are letting your hatrid of the Environment Agency get in the way of rational thought or comment. This smokescreen is getting ridiculous it was your Tory pals in the Government who slashed the EA's budget and refused the request for additional funding to allow dredging to be undertaken. Yet you and the ridiculous ILG continue to heap insults upon the EA just to avoid the truth of the matter that it has been the government led austerity measures that have directly resulted in the reduced maintenance.
Owly old boy once again you are letting your hatrid of the Environment Agency get in the way of rational thought or comment. This smokescreen is getting ridiculous it was your Tory pals in the Government who slashed the EA's budget and refused the request for additional funding to allow dredging to be undertaken. Yet you and the ridiculous ILG continue to heap insults upon the EA just to avoid the truth of the matter that it has been the government led austerity measures that have directly resulted in the reduced maintenance. Bridgy old Boy

10:13pm Tue 25 Feb 14

ladybird14 says...

so what i can see of it you have just past it on a bit and flooded some where else well done more mess for some more POOR PEOPLE/FARMERS
so what i can see of it you have just past it on a bit and flooded some where else well done more mess for some more POOR PEOPLE/FARMERS ladybird14

7:32pm Thu 27 Feb 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

freddie_mercury_unde
rcover_reporter
wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Better flooded farm land than people's homes
Better no Flooding, only on the Designated Flood Plains, the E A are An Utter disgrace, it's their Doctrine, policies that have caused this years Problems. In 2013, a report that Was produced in February, by the Consortium of Drainage Boards , Concluded that the Rivers must be Dredged to their 1960 levels, taking the now 65% Capacity, back to 90-95 % as 60's.
The EA Chose to ignore this report, instead progressing a Scheme which would increase the Habitat for Wading Birds in Preference to the Resident Population of Humans, yes us, and my friends who are now out of their homes for upwards of a Year, or More. In favour of Sand Beetles, etc..
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
could you post a link to this EA report please Dave as at present we only have your word for it
David, are we to believe that your remarks are unfounded and scurrilous or just a massive owl shaped conspiracy theory?

I suspect that if someone had posted something questioning your integrity about certain other sensitive matters then you'd have written reams of pointless and dull rhetoric about anything but the point in hand.

Is there a link to your as yet unsubstantiated claim, if so I for one would love to see the report about sand beetles etc
[quote][p][bold]freddie_mercury_unde rcover_reporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Central Scrutinizer[/bold] wrote: Better flooded farm land than people's homes[/p][/quote]Better no Flooding, only on the Designated Flood Plains, the E A are An Utter disgrace, it's their Doctrine, policies that have caused this years Problems. In 2013, a report that Was produced in February, by the Consortium of Drainage Boards , Concluded that the Rivers must be Dredged to their 1960 levels, taking the now 65% Capacity, back to 90-95 % as 60's. The EA Chose to ignore this report, instead progressing a Scheme which would increase the Habitat for Wading Birds in Preference to the Resident Population of Humans, yes us, and my friends who are now out of their homes for upwards of a Year, or More. In favour of Sand Beetles, etc.. David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]could you post a link to this EA report please Dave as at present we only have your word for it[/p][/quote]David, are we to believe that your remarks are unfounded and scurrilous or just a massive owl shaped conspiracy theory? I suspect that if someone had posted something questioning your integrity about certain other sensitive matters then you'd have written reams of pointless and dull rhetoric about anything but the point in hand. Is there a link to your as yet unsubstantiated claim, if so I for one would love to see the report about sand beetles etc freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter

9:58am Fri 28 Feb 14

Somerset Flower says...

According to a recent article in one of the newspaper devastating evidence has come to light not just that the floods covering 65 sq miles pof the :Levels could have been prevented but that they were deliberately engineered by Labour ministers in 2009 regardless of property and human rights of the thousands of people whose hokes etc would be affected. Furthermore, that wildly misleading Met Office forecast in November that the 3 mths between December and February would be drier than usual, led the EA to take a step that has made the flooding infinitely more disastrous than it need to have been. Morley in 2005 flooding in Somerset should be artificially promoted becase "wildlife will benefit from increased water levels". The 13 local drainage boards responsible for keeping the Levels properly managed were all to be co-opted into implementing this policy. He also vetoed a proposal to build a new pumping station at Dunball which would have allowed much more effective 24 hr pum;ping of flood water into the mouth of the Estuary. It seems that this led the EA to deliberately flood Southlake Moor in the expectation of a dry winter.
According to a recent article in one of the newspaper devastating evidence has come to light not just that the floods covering 65 sq miles pof the :Levels could have been prevented but that they were deliberately engineered by Labour ministers in 2009 regardless of property and human rights of the thousands of people whose hokes etc would be affected. Furthermore, that wildly misleading Met Office forecast in November that the 3 mths between December and February would be drier than usual, led the EA to take a step that has made the flooding infinitely more disastrous than it need to have been. Morley in 2005 flooding in Somerset should be artificially promoted becase "wildlife will benefit from increased water levels". The 13 local drainage boards responsible for keeping the Levels properly managed were all to be co-opted into implementing this policy. He also vetoed a proposal to build a new pumping station at Dunball which would have allowed much more effective 24 hr pum;ping of flood water into the mouth of the Estuary. It seems that this led the EA to deliberately flood Southlake Moor in the expectation of a dry winter. Somerset Flower

11:08am Fri 28 Feb 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

Somerset Flower wrote:
According to a recent article in one of the newspaper devastating evidence has come to light not just that the floods covering 65 sq miles pof the :Levels could have been prevented but that they were deliberately engineered by Labour ministers in 2009 regardless of property and human rights of the thousands of people whose hokes etc would be affected. Furthermore, that wildly misleading Met Office forecast in November that the 3 mths between December and February would be drier than usual, led the EA to take a step that has made the flooding infinitely more disastrous than it need to have been. Morley in 2005 flooding in Somerset should be artificially promoted becase "wildlife will benefit from increased water levels". The 13 local drainage boards responsible for keeping the Levels properly managed were all to be co-opted into implementing this policy. He also vetoed a proposal to build a new pumping station at Dunball which would have allowed much more effective 24 hr pum;ping of flood water into the mouth of the Estuary. It seems that this led the EA to deliberately flood Southlake Moor in the expectation of a dry winter.
Ok, firstly, just for the record, I am devastated for the families and businesses that have been affected by this awful flooding situation. Having read many pages of evidence I would say that the lack of maintenance and dredging of the rivers over a protracted period has certainly been a contributory factor in the extent of the flood and the extraordinary amount of time the water has been lying in the affected areas however I would like to see the actual reports that state categorically that this is an engineered situation sanctioned by ministers. Also, the met office forecasts weren't "wildly misleading" (unless of course you're claiming a conspiracy now between the met office and government!). They may not have been entirely accurate but then we live in a maritime climate which is affected by many factors - not all of them predictable! We have had the wettest winter since at least 1766 and no one could have predicted this.

Bad management of the levels - certainly. Collusion and conspiratorial black ops - unlikely, unless of course someone can show me concrete evidence to the contrary.
[quote][p][bold]Somerset Flower[/bold] wrote: According to a recent article in one of the newspaper devastating evidence has come to light not just that the floods covering 65 sq miles pof the :Levels could have been prevented but that they were deliberately engineered by Labour ministers in 2009 regardless of property and human rights of the thousands of people whose hokes etc would be affected. Furthermore, that wildly misleading Met Office forecast in November that the 3 mths between December and February would be drier than usual, led the EA to take a step that has made the flooding infinitely more disastrous than it need to have been. Morley in 2005 flooding in Somerset should be artificially promoted becase "wildlife will benefit from increased water levels". The 13 local drainage boards responsible for keeping the Levels properly managed were all to be co-opted into implementing this policy. He also vetoed a proposal to build a new pumping station at Dunball which would have allowed much more effective 24 hr pum;ping of flood water into the mouth of the Estuary. It seems that this led the EA to deliberately flood Southlake Moor in the expectation of a dry winter.[/p][/quote]Ok, firstly, just for the record, I am devastated for the families and businesses that have been affected by this awful flooding situation. Having read many pages of evidence I would say that the lack of maintenance and dredging of the rivers over a protracted period has certainly been a contributory factor in the extent of the flood and the extraordinary amount of time the water has been lying in the affected areas however I would like to see the actual reports that state categorically that this is an engineered situation sanctioned by ministers. Also, the met office forecasts weren't "wildly misleading" (unless of course you're claiming a conspiracy now between the met office and government!). They may not have been entirely accurate but then we live in a maritime climate which is affected by many factors - not all of them predictable! We have had the wettest winter since at least 1766 and no one could have predicted this. Bad management of the levels - certainly. Collusion and conspiratorial black ops - unlikely, unless of course someone can show me concrete evidence to the contrary. freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter

1:14pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Bridgy old Boy says...

Good point Freddie the fact is they won't be able to show you the evidence as it doesn't exist. Unfortunately the whole sorry episode is the breeding ground for conspiracy theorists with lots of people out there wanting to believe them for both emotional reasons and political ones. There is a suggestion of legal action being pursued against the EA for a breach of duty of care. In many ways this would be good as it will be a put up or shut up event for those promoting the notion that the EA was deliberately pursuing a policy abandoning land and property to flood water.
Good point Freddie the fact is they won't be able to show you the evidence as it doesn't exist. Unfortunately the whole sorry episode is the breeding ground for conspiracy theorists with lots of people out there wanting to believe them for both emotional reasons and political ones. There is a suggestion of legal action being pursued against the EA for a breach of duty of care. In many ways this would be good as it will be a put up or shut up event for those promoting the notion that the EA was deliberately pursuing a policy abandoning land and property to flood water. Bridgy old Boy

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